Appearance on The Heuristic Podcast

At the beginning of January 2023, on a cozy winter Sunday morning, I was interviewed on a podcast about my past substance abuse, life, and jiu jitsu. It was more a conversation then it was an interview. Mike made the conversation flow easily and I could have chatted for another hour.

Sometimes you can underestimate the influence you have on others. I was surprised I was asked to be on a podcast because I thought “what the heck is so important about me that another person would want to find out?” But it turns out I’ve blabbed on enough about my BJJ experience that I caught the attention of Mike Lucchesi.

Mike Lucchesi is a high school teacher, health coach, yoga instructor, and a new purple belt in Brazilian jiu jitsu. We share a lot of common experiences in BJJ and I had a blast doing his podcast.


Have a listen here…


One response to “Appearance on The Heuristic Podcast”

  1. giving it a listen now! Thank you for sharing

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